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Kapittel 1: Countdown
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What do you have to say about dictators of countries like Indonesia, who we sell weapons to, yet they are slaughtering people in East Timor? What do you have to say about Israel, who is slaughtering Palestinians? What do you have to say about that? Those are our allies. Why do we sell weapons to these countries? Why do we support them? Why do we bomb Iraq when it commits similar problems?
There are various examples of things that are not right in this world, and the United States is trying... I really am surprised that people feel that it is necessary to defend the rights of Saddam Hussein when what we ought to be thinking about is how to make sure that he does not use weapons of mass destruction.
I'd like to... to those who are shouting, just a moment. I'm not defending him in the least. What I am saying is that there needs to be consistent application of US foreign policy. We cannot support people who are committing the same violations because they are political allies. That is not acceptable. We cannot violate UN resolutions when it is convenient to us. You're not answering my question, Madam.
Alright, you briefed the press, did you not, when you were there?
Well, I had several jobs. One of my jobs was that of analyst; I also was an interrogator, and indeed briefed the press when we, the CIA, wanted to circulate disinformation on a particular issue. Disinformation is not necessarily a lie; maybe a half-truth. And we would pick out a journalist, I would go do the briefing, and hope that he would put the information in print.
What was your percentage of success?
We were pretty successful in planting information of a rather rarified nature. For instance, if we wanted to get across to the American public that the North Vietnamese were building up their force structure in South Vietnam, I would go to a journalist and advise him that in the past six months, X number of North Vietnamese forces had come down the Ho Chi Minh trail system through southern Laos. Now, there is no way a journalist can check that information. That's data derived from radio intercepts, spy-in-the-sky photography. So either he goes with the information or he doesn't. And ordinarily, or usually, the journalist would go with it because it looked like some kind of exclusive.
To go after these gentlemen, I would be directed to cultivate them, to spend time with them at the Caravelle Hotel or at the Continental Hotel, to socialize with them, and slowly but surely to try to gain their confidence by dolloping out valid information—information which was true. And then I would drop into a conversation the data that we wanted to get across, which might not be true.
One piece of data, for instance, that we managed to plant in the New Yorker magazine had to do with the supposed North Vietnamese effort in 1973 to develop airfields along the border of South Vietnam. The reason we wanted to plant this information was that we were trying to persuade the US Congress that Saigon should continue to get a great deal of aid, and that the North Vietnamese were the chief violators of the ceasefire accord. That was printed in the New Yorker magazine under the byline of Robert Shaplen, as indeed was a great deal of such information which we tried to circulate.
Frank, a two-part question: What were the objectives of the CIA? What about the moral implications of what you were doing in feeding this information? Did the objective override the moral implications or moral problems?
Well, the objective of the Agency in general is to generate intelligence and get it back to Washington, to get at the truth and make sure the policymakers understand it. When you plant disinformation, you are diverging from that objective, and I think probably in retrospect it was very counterproductive. I am, as an ex-CIA agent, opposed to the disinformation activities in which I was involved. I admit that I was involved, and I think it served no useful purpose. Propagandizing the American public or Congress is not the CIA's job.
As to the morality of what the CIA was doing or that particular activity, the war was a very relative thing. It was a relativist environment, and morality seldom came into play when you were operating in the field. In my estimation, a CIA man should be amoral. That may sound pretty shocking to somebody, but what if my morality were that of a Nazi agent, if you will? You wouldn't want me to be your intelligence officer. Keep the morals out of intelligence, keep the truth in, and stay away from disinformation.
It would have been more appropriate for Mr. Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada, to address this house according to Article 144—an article which was specifically designed to debate violations of human rights, democracy, and the rule of law, which is clearly the case with Mr. Trudeau. Then again, a prime minister who openly admires the Chinese basic dictatorship, who tramples on fundamental rights by persecuting and criminalizing his own citizens as terrorists just because they dared to stand up to a perverted concept of democracy, should not be allowed to speak in this house at all. Mr. Trudeau, you are a disgrace for any democracy. Please spare us your presence. Thank you.
And it might sound radical, colleagues, but the answer to war is not more war, it's peace. And peace isn't delivered by the barrel of a gun; it's delivered by diplomacy, by dialogue. You can wish away your continent's history, but we share a continent with Russia. We will sit down with Russia. There will be a negotiated peace, and this organization should be promoting it earlier rather than delaying it and making sure that more Ukrainians die. Your feigning of sympathy rings hollow. It makes me sick, to be honest with you.
We become involved when disinformation poses a threat to the security of our country. It is when there's a connectivity to a threat to our country, it could be a threat, a connectivity to violence. And what this working group does... what this working group does is precisely what I would think you would want it to do, which is to take a look at the work, the disinformation work that our department has done, and ask the following questions: Do we have policies? Do we have guardrails?
Here is the problem: We can't even agree—we can't even agree what disinformation is. You can't even agree that it was disinformation the Russians fed information to the Steele dossier. You can't agree to that. How are we ever going to come to an agreement on what is disinformation so you can police it on social media?
Senator, I have two points if I may... um, finish. Number one, that with this office... I'm sorry, what this working group does, because it's not an office, what this working group does is ensure that there are guardrails, definitions, standards to make sure that the free speech rights, the civil rights, civil liberties, and privacy rights of individuals...
Do you think... do you think... do you think COVID disinformation threatens our national security? And number two, if I may, Senator, and number two is it your proposition that when the cartels spread disinformation with respect to our immigration policies to try to lure vulnerable migrants to our border illegally... I think you've got no idea what disinformation is, and I don't think the government is capable of it.
Do you know who the greatest propagator of disinformation in the history of the world is? The US government. Are you familiar with the Gulf of Tonkin? The Pentagon Papers? Are you familiar with George W. Bush and the weapons of mass destruction? Are you familiar with Iran-Contra? I mean, think of all the debates and disputes we've had over the last 50 years in our country. We worked them out by debating them. We don't work them out by the government being the arbiter. I don't want your guardrails. I want you to have nothing to do with speech. You think we can't determine... you know, speech by traffickers is disinformation? You think the American people are so stupid they need you to tell them what the truth is? You can't even admit what the truth is with the Steele dossier. I don't trust government to figure out what the truth is. Government is largely disseminating disinformation.
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You would know this as a... this is a bit of an aside, um, but in terms of how you think about problem sets... I When I was a cadet, what's the first... what's the cadet motto at West Point? You will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. I... I was a CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole. It was like... we had... we had entire... we had entire training courses...
We had a good discussion on ensuring global energy security and adequate oil supplies to support global economic growth, and that will begin shortly. I'm... and I'm doing all I can to increase the supply for the United States of America, which I expect to happen. The Saudis share that urgency, and based on our discussions today, I expect we'll see further steps in the coming weeks.
One of the hopeful things that I discovered is that nearly every war that has started in the past 50 years has been a result of media lies. The media could have stopped it if they had searched even enough, if they hadn't reprinted government propaganda. They could have stopped it. But what does that mean? Well, that means basically populations don't like wars, and populations have to be fooled into wars. Populations don't willingly and with open eyes go into a war. So if we have a good media environment, then we'll also have a peaceful environment.
You killed a million people in Iraq. That is a separate... You killed a million people in Iraq. It's incredible that you have the brass neck to be sitting here now urging another Iraq war...
There can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce many more, and he has the ability to dispense these lethal poisons and diseases in ways that can cause massive death and destruction. If biological weapons seem too terrible to contemplate, chemical weapons are equally chilling. UNSCOM has already laid out much of this, and it is documented for all of us to read in UNSCOM's 1999 report on the subject. If we consider just one category of missing weaponry—6,500 bombs from the Iran-Iraq war—UNSCOM says the amount of chemical agent in them would be in the order of a thousand tons. These quantities of chemical weapons are now unaccounted for. Dr. Blix has quipped that mustard gas is not normally... You are supposed to know what you did with it. We believe Saddam Hussein knows what he did with it, and he has not come clean to the International Community. We have evidence these weapons existed; what we don't have is evidence from Iraq that they have been destroyed or where they are. That is what we are still waiting for.
Okay, inspection worth doing. Everybody's agreed it's worth doing, and it gets stopped. Yes, sir, at that moment, we're on automatic pilot, as far as you're concerned. Period. No ifs, hands, or buts. Now, I respect that, but now it seems to me the Secretary of State might have a slightly different problem. Secretary of State might be sitting there and saying, "I look over there in that side now, I remember so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so, and the 12 people on this side, they're all the ones that said they didn't want to use force. Now I'm going to have to go tell the president now that we should..." Or Cohen, unleash whatever it takes to get it done. And our military assessment is the same as the Major's. The Major's assessment is privately held, but publicly acknowledged later, that airstrikes alone aren't going to do this. Saddam's not going to cave on this.
So now here's the deal: I recommended the president have at it and let the chips fall where they may. A reasonable position for the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of State to take, but I respectfully suggest, Major... I respectfully suggest they have responsibility slightly above your pay grade. Slightly above your pay grade to decide whether or not to take the nation to war alone, or to take the nation to war partway, or to take the nation to war halfway. That's a real tough decision. That's why they get paid the big bucks. That's why they get the limos and you don't.
I mean this sincerely, I'm not trying to be flip, because I think—and that's why I said at the outset, the reason why I'm glad you did what you did—we should come to our milk, we should make a decision. But in terms of whether the Secretary of State has no more to consider than you do as the arms inspector... "You didn't get in? Didn't get my job done? Get me in, period! You made the deal, right? That's the deal. A deal's a deal. Get me in, Scott Ritter. I'm ready to go." It's not how it works. Now, maybe it should work that way. But wouldn't you acknowledge that if you were President of the United States or the Secretary of State, you'd sit there and say, "Now, okay. Old Scotty boy didn't get in. We said he should get in. We want him to get in. It's important that he does get in. They're not going to let him in. So what are we going to do now? We know that France and Russia aren't going to be with us. We're quite confident China's not. We've already run those traps. They're not there. We're not sure where the United States Senate is. But have at it, boys. Go get them." And by the way, Scott and the boys say air power's not enough.
I think it's a legitimate debate, Major. I think it's a legitimate debate. But I don't think we should be putting it in the context of, you have somebody up there at State saying, "Look, how can we weasel out of this agreement? We want to let this guy out there hanging." We're not... we're not... It's a very practical political decision. Same kind of decision General Powell made, same kind of decision President Bush made. Every president, every Secretary of State has to do it. Like I said, they get paid more than you. Their job's a hell of a lot more complicated than yours. They may have made the wrong decision, and you brought it to light. We should address it, we should say straight up where we are, and we should do it. And for that, I thank you. But it's above your pay grade.
About 10 days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon, and one of the generals called me, and he said, "Sir, you got to come in and talk to me a sec." He says, "We've made the decision. We're going to war with Iraq." I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do." He said, "I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments." And um, he said, "I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail."
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, he said, "I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran."
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Whatever our hopes may be for the future, for reducing this threat or living with it, there is no escaping either the gravity or the totality of its challenge to our survival and to our security—a challenge that confronts us in unaccustomed ways in every sphere of human activity. This deadly challenge imposes upon our society two requirements of direct concern both to the press and to the president—two requirements that may seem almost contradictory in tone, but which must be reconciled and fulfilled if we are to meet this national peril.
I refer first to the need for far greater public information, and second to the need for far greater official secrecy. The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it's in my control. And no official of my administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes, or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.
Kapittel 2: Welcome
Hey everybody, welcome into Redacted. I'm Clayton Morris. I'm Natalie Morris. Hope you guys had a wonderful weekend. We've got a very busy show for you on this Monday morning.
We're going to look at the January 6th lies and the footage that was released, because we have 44,000 hours of footage that has been released now, and we're going to go through it all. 44,000 hours! So get your popcorn, we're going to watch... we're going to watch all 44,000 hours. But Americans had a very busy weekend going through this footage, and there's a ton of things that we've revealed in this footage that shows the Democrats' structure and narrative is crumbling right before our eyes. Will there be a special investigation with the new House of Representatives calling for a new investigation for perhaps Nancy Pelosi lying to Congress? All of that and more, we'll look at that.
Plus, we're going to talk about how President Biden is turning 81 today. What he really wants from us is two wars—the ones he wants the most, Russia and Iran specifically. We're going to talk about how he is dog-whistling for a war with Iran. We're going to pick up what he's putting down, and you're going to decide: Are you going to vote for that or not?
Also, we're going to look at unvaccinated soldiers. You know, these were the brave men and women who said, "I'm not doing that. I'm not going to get vaxed. You want me to do this as part of a mandate in the United States military? I'm sorry, I'm not going to do that." And they were booted out; they were given discharges. Well, guess what, the irony of ironies? We have a recruitment problem in the United States, and we'll tell you what is being offered to these unvaccinated soldiers who were given the old heave-ho. All of that and more, as Redacted starts right now.
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Um, hey, you know what else never gets old? DDoS attacks—denial of service attacks against our good friends over at Rumble. So if a lot of you maybe were trying to get on Rumble earlier tonight, yes, Rumble was down, they were attacked. And Rumble even tweeted about this a short time ago, saying, "Massive DDoS attack, our engineers are investigating, we'll report back." They were able to pinpoint it down; I think they pinpointed this massive DDoS attack coming out of China, so they got the servers back up. So hopefully you guys are not having any... Are we seeing any sort of service interruptions on Rumble tonight at all, guys? Not since we got it. Yeah, no, it all seems to be running pretty good right now. Earlier today, yeah, it was definitely down. We're back!
So Rumble tweeted out afterwards and says, "Update: Our services are restored. The world doesn't like freedom of expression, but we will hold the line as long as we need to." So yeah, they pinpointed that to... I guess China was where it was. So all right, well, if you're joining us on Rumble, thank you for being on the vanguard. We appreciate you. Hey, here's another way you can be...
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